We can’t sell corn to India. We can’t sell rice to Asia.
This part is hilariously stupid because there isn’t a block of those exports. It’s a block on genetically modified foods. These countries have a lot of common sense policies concerning the sale of GMOs because they do not want to get stuck in the monoculture death spiral that the US agricultural sector is stuck in.
Why in the world do we let these people sell their cars? 94% of cars in Japan are made in Japan.
This is another stupid one. The Japanese don’t like idiotically massive cars. Which is 90% of what American carmakers sell.
I lived in Japan for several years and wholeheartedly second this. I had a later model Nissan Skyline that was roughly the size of a Camry and that thing was too big for the cities.
I love how GMO foods pose one of the greatest dangers to our species’ continued well-being and survival, but not in way because of the genetic modification, but because of the ability for corporations to patent life itself and control who gets to grow it or not.
Meanwhile, you ask most average grocery shoppers if they would eat GMO vegetables and they will shriek in horror like it’s going to make them grow dicks out of their elbows.
Has this man seen the state animals are in? Factory farming? What an idiot.
“They hate our beef because our beef is beautiful and theirs is weak.”
Logic’s not so strong with this one, eh?
Sounds like Trump personally wrote the taking points in crayon.
That’s not true. He ate all the crayons before he wrote anything.
From “they hate us for our freedom” to “they hate us for our beef”.
And I believed the Bush era was rock bottom.Remember “freedom fries?” Republicans are fucking idiots.
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The rest of the world doesn’t not see Democrats like that either. Red or blue, both right wing, pro-war, genocidal, anti-people parties.
Just look at the rampant russo- and sinophobia.
And there’s this beauty which captures the American mindset perfectly:
I think they are not a actual Democrat my guy the right loves to pretend to be us the stir shit
They are all warmongers, always have been.
And ‘independent even more left’ Bernie just the same
I don’t exclude the Dems from that statement.
Whenever the Americans have their wars they all rally around the flag.
me too 😵💫
Every American thing I’ve tasted has been absolutely vile compared to even the cheapest things in Europe. I really feel bad for US citizens who have lived their whole lives with shit like that.
It’s unbelievable how much better it is overseas compared to US.
The wild thing is that we do have access to it here, there are small farms growing quality produce and heirloom varieties not available in Europe. But that’s not what gets sold in supermarkets in population centers. The problem is in the middlemen and marketing, all unregulated for profit from crap.
Our food is garbage. It’s all engineered to be fast growing, so it has no time to develop flavor and take up natural nutrients. The result is flavorless, empty food.
Man, you’d think itd be cheap, with the quantity over quality game were running
The good news is, for us prepper types, is that proteins are looking to have a good, if short, crash in prices in the coming weeks or couple months as export orders dry up. They’ll drop just to break even on the immediate costs, then go back up again as farms scale back their operations to accommodate the decreased demand, raising costs back up again, except at that point, it’ll likely be higher as there’s no real “buffer” of producing more for exports and there’s an overall smaller count of source animals.
Now’s a good time to get a chest freezer (or a second one) and get it ready to stock up.
You are for getting about the corporate greed aspect of it. It will never be cheap if they think they can charge more for it.
Food from the USA is not up to European standards. It’s that simple.
Just look at how long it took to ban Red Dye #3. Banned almost completely in Europe in 1994, while in the US it’s legal until 2027.
Just want to piggy back on the red dye thing. The dye was banned in January, and shortly after, in February, a canal in Argentina turned red, which people suspected was from a dye manufacturer dumping into the water way: https://vt.co/news/weird/concerns-raised-after-canal-water-mysteriously-turns-red-like-blood-overnight
I suspect the two events are related.
That seems unlikely. Demand for these things tends to taper off. It’s not like the products using this dye immediately had their formula changed when the law passed. Instead, production of the dye will slow down as those products get a new formula, and they’ll continue to use old stock until it’s depleted.
Besides, the article points to other likely sources of pollution.
I’m confused, is that how a ban works? Companies are allowed to continue to use it from massive stockpiles as long as some day in the future they stop? It sounds way too easy to game…
Under US law, yeah typically. There were a number of companies that hoarded lead paint in 1978 for exactly that reason, and it was perfectly legal. Similar story for asbestos. What sucks is afterwards, there’s no clear line to know if someone might have the banned substance. I also have no idea if this is the case for this particular law.
But regardless, red dye 3 isn’t banned until 2027 for food, and 2028 for drugs. These will all be reformulated by that date, but for now production continues unabated.
Ah, that makes sense. I thought the ban was already in effect here…
Don’t forget high fructose corn syrup, which is still legal in the US, despite having a conspiracy theorist who hates it in charge of the Department of Health and who could get that ball rolling with a word.
Corn subsidies effectively bankroll a number of (Solid Red) US states. That shit’s big business, with big lobbyist payrolls, with big lawyers behind them.
The corn lobby is nearly as strong as the oil lobby… it aint going nowhere.
what is this new american trend of infantile statements?
It’s hardly new. The United States have always been like that one popular kid in an elementary school. If you act the way he wants, he can be nice to you and your on his team. Take one step in a different direction and they’ll start badmouthing you, preferably behind your back.
They’ve been doing this to Russia and China for decades. As long as they have the stage, they can create any narrative they want and the audience will most likely adopt the opinion and start saying the same things.
The thing about propaganda is that, if it fits in your frame or reference, you’ll be more likely to accept it. If it doesn’t fit, like when it is about you, suddenly you’ll realize that this is something they have been doing about others all along and that it doesn’t break any patterns, apart from the recognition patterns of the receiver.
It is not about the behaviour, it is about the language. Back then even though they were bullies, they did at least use adult diplomatic language. It is about the brainrot of Trumps sycophants copying his bizarre childish way of talking.
Sadly that kind of language apparently resonates with voters more than intelligent speech. It’s happening all across Europe as well. As someone from the Netherlands, I had a bit of a laugh when the right wing populists found out that governing is not at all as simple as they make it out to be. It’s the embodiment of ‘fuck around and find out’.
This is how the fascists evangelize to the morons, the lower educated.
See, when they say stuff like “our beef is beautiful, and theirs is weak, they’re jealous” or “these tariffs might be the manliest thing, they’re going to being us back from woke and give more testosterone” they’re not talking to you.
I mean, they know you’re gonna hear them but they know you’re smart enough to know what they’re doing.
What they’re really doing is rilling up all the dumb, uneducated masses that voted them in. They’re filling the airwaves with buzzwords, and their fucking sleeper zombies awaken from their WWE stupor, they all turn down their sweat lodge manosphere podcasts and go “yesss daddy make us more stronger omg trump greatest ever we’re gonna dunk on those nerds”
They think this will scare you and intimidate you not because of their words directly, but because you understand the effects of what they’re really doing. You know, because of the implication.
Of course it’s fucking stupid, but the problem is they will actually throw a tantrum when you tell them to fuck off and that’s when fascism gets ugly. God help us all.
The majority of the US reads below a 6th grade level. They’re talking to those people, because those are the dumb ones that put them in power.
It is simple sadly. An infant is running the country. They want to make sure he can understand what they’re saying publicly without it having to go through a translator. Note the excessive use of the word beautiful for instance.
Most Americans are fuckbrains, this is just something we have to accept. At least for the time being.
It’s really simple, the bootlickers realize that impressing Trump is the only way to move up in MAGA world, so 100% of their effort is put toward doing that which leads to many different embarrassing acts including him here trying to mimic his fetid babytalk.
They’re dropping the facade now that trump has gained power. They’ve always been petulant, greedy little children who will burn anyone or anything for power.
New?
“…because our beef is beautiful and theirs is weak.”
My brother in christ, what the fluffer nutter cyberfuck are you talking about?!?
Who believes this? It’s such an obvious lie. It’s just a signal to the troops that statements don’t need contain logic, right?
Who needs logic, this is a discussion about beautiful beef dammit!
Stupid sexy cows
Sam?
America won’t buy our corn and guns!
Why won’t America buy our corn and guns?
Oh, because they make their own and they’re fucking thousands of miles away.
what’s the worst that can happen to chicken in a couple thousand miles from a country of origin with no regulations
You don’t want 10-day aged chicken?
Or maybe you want 10-day aged chicken that has been processed in a way that the 10 days of aging doesn’t change the chicken - instead of usual aging processes that enhance meats (well, red meats)
They do buy our guns - they go crazy for ČZ pistols (made in a little shithole country called Czech Republic)
in my experience from a decade ago Czechia was a delightful place to visit and the people were very kind and helpful.
We are delightful! Helpful? Sometimes haha. Glad you enjoyed your visit!
In fairness they probably don’t actually know that. They’re obsessed with AKs for example but most Americans probably don’t know where they’re from.
I like when they talk like toddlers, it’s clear as day they are distracting the topic at hand, much like their IQ
It’s hard to know wether they talk like that because of their voter base, or they have that voter base because they talk like that…
but your beef isn’t beautiful na na na…
Eww… We don’t need chlorine infused chicken and chemical soaked eggs. No idea what crap they have in their mad cow beef and lobster. Ban it by law, put it into the constitution change all the national anthem to say EU citizens will be protected from US chemical infused meat and eggs. Write it into a huge stone facing US in multiple languages. Make T-shirts too and hats.
Don’t american eggs need to be refrigerated and cannot be eaten raw or something ridiculous
They are washed with harsh chemicals, leading to the destruction of the natural protective layer (that protective layer prevents germs like salmonella from entering the egg)
Apparently, it’s to combat salmonella contamination from fecies on the shell.
European countries instead vaccinate their chickens, have higher hygiene and biosecurity standards (with regular inspections) for farms and frequently collect the eggs to avoid any surface contamination without having to wash their eggs.
But we just hope that harsh chemicals will cover up the natural consequences of our inhumane practices. So I can see both sides.
Please send help. We’re disgusting.
That’s why European eggs are so much more expensive… Right?
/S
I see your /s and raise you 1.99 for barn, 2.39 for free-range, 3.39 for organic, 10pcs each, all without chick shredding. And 2.49 for cooked and painted barn eggs. (Those are actually available pretty much all-year round: First customers complained that they could only buy cooked eggs around Easter, then other customers complained that they unwittingly bought cooked eggs because they looked like all the others so now they’re painting eggs year-round).
TIL
It’s because they are washed in a different way than the rest of the world.
No idea what crap they have in their mad cow beef and lobster.
Neither does America: they fired the people who check this.
Gee, it’s almost like he’s intentionally being an asshole to achieve a specific reaction he wants
The thing that gets me about the Trump Admin is how all his spokesgremlins sound like they stepped off a Middle School playground. We’ve gone from “Newspapers are written at a 6th grade reading level” to “Public policy is implemented by 6th graders who just discovered what a bully is”.
Spokesgremlins… I like that!
spokesgremlins, spokesgoblins, spokesorcs, spokesgelitaniouscubes
Honestly asking, what reaction do you think he is looking for?
I can understand (and believe) these assholes are all evil and greedy at a cartoon villain level, but I simply cannot understand what is the goal here. All I see is stupidity running rampant
Absolute isolationism with nationalistic delusions of grandeur
Basically, North Korea
But don’t they realize that North Korea is a broken dump? why would they want to be kings of that when they are already Oligarchs of an actual rich nation?
Not asking you to make them make sense… I am just at a lost for logic here
Because even oligarchs aren’t kings.
There’s always another goalpost.
They do realize that, they don’t see what they want as that tho. This guy is too stupid for that, and he himself is not a oligarch
They probably think that couldn’t possibly happen to their country because they think they’re better than North Koreans
im convinced this guy has actual brain damage.
that’s my occam’s razor
Pffff haha Hahaha haha ha…
Oh wait, he’s serious.
HAHA HAHAHAHA HAHA HAHA!!
America has the food standards of a third world country. That place literally allows cancer giving chemicals in their food simply because people aren’t dying fast enough from them.
The US is several third-world countries in a trenchcoat, supported by a few first-world countries within it so it doesn’t collapse, cosplaying as a single first-world country.
If the US broke up into multiple countries many states would be poorer than really poor countries. I won’t tell you which…
And one single state would be 4th in the GDP rank (it is 5th right now)
If anything the US is now second world given the tenancy to bend the knee to Putin.
“What do you mean this chicken is rotting??”
pours bleach everywhere
“What did I tell you, see? Zero bacteria!”
Please keep their foodstuffs away… 🤢
Hey, common… my third world country has much higher standards!
We need a new category unique to America. They can feel exceptional in their mediocrity.
A negative world country?
A turd world cuntry.
It must be nice to walk into a grocery store and buy things without having to read the ingredients of 10 different products to find the one with the fewest unnecessary shitty ingredients that are all banned in the EU. Can’t even buy an apple I don’t have to peel first because the skin is covered in fucking Apeel. Good for the EU rejecting our enshittified American garbage.
I had to look up Apeel, but I think it’s a good thing actually:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apeel_Sciences
Apeel Sciences is an American food technology company based in Goleta, California. Its edible coating product Apeel or Edipeel can make avocados, citrus and other types of fruit last twice as long as usual by using a tasteless edible coating, and reduces food loss and waste as well as reliance on single-use plastic packaging.
Edipeel is allowed for use on the following fruits in the European Union, Norway, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom: avocados, citrus fruit, mangoes, papayas, melons, bananas, pineapples, and pomegranates.
On their website they seem to rightfully point out that E471 (apparently a combo of E422 and E570) is already approved for consumption in the EU, so it doesn’t make sense that they’re limited to foods where we don’t eat the peel. If it’s safe and gets the plastic off the cucumbers, I’m for it.
e: Does anyone actually have a source for palladium being used in Edipeel’s manufacture? I can’t find one. Most of what I’m getting in these searches is that the plants they use to make E471 can contain heavy metals they absorb from their environment, and that the levels are low enough to be considered safe by US regulations. (No clue whether the limit is reasonable.)
The necessity of this substance is far from proven, and it uses a palladium as a catalyst which introduces potential heavy metal contamination. This is a venture capital-backed startup. We simply have stricter standards in the EU.
Do you have a source for their use of palladium? Wikipedia says it as well, but I can’t find where that information is coming from. I’m mostly interested in what they’re using it for, and whether other manufacturers of E471 are doing the same or using another method. Livsmedelsverket says it can be an animal product, but Apeel says they make theirs from plants. It’s apparently also possible to make from palm oil, so that’s neat. :|
So E471 is a whole class of hydrocarbons. I was using Wikipedia as a source too. Broadly speaking, catalysts containing heavy metals are often used for synthesizing organic molecules, regardless of the feedstock which can be deeived from plants or animals or whatever. Ideally, the catalyst does not get incorporated into the product, but generally quality control has to be enforced by regulations because corporations love cutting costs by glossing over safety standards.
How is it a good thing to spray shit on an apple? They last plenty long without that garbage.
I don’t think apples need any help either (they actually produce their own wax coating apparently), but the cucumbers are in plastic, and there’s a ton of strawberry waste because they mold immediately. If it is indeed safe then it could be very beneficial in such cases.
Why are cucumbers in plastic? Strange practice.
In the EU only stuff that is proven safe can be used on edibles. Since that is apparently not the case yet, it is limited to stuff that you don’t eat the peel of
No, the substances in question are already approved for edibles. I think the issue is that additives are not allowed on produce, because the Swedish Livsmedelsverket phrases it in a way that implies such to me.
“Får användas i nästan alla livsmedel som får innehålla tillsatser.” “May be used in nearly all foods for which additives are allowed.” I think it’s reasonable that there’s probably a regulation about not having additives in things people are assuming will be natural. I mean, how would you post allergy warnings on a peach?
I think the jury is still out on Apeel and I avoid directly consuming it due to reports of it containing small amounts of residual heavy metals that may build up in the body if you’re eating, say, an apple per day over the years. That may not be the case, and maybe it is in fact perfectly safe, but I appreciate that the EU is more cautious and it’s sprayed only on peels that aren’t typically eaten. The corporate-captured US government won’t do us the favor of being cautious like that and is perfectly happy to let companies feed us things that are later proven unsafe, so we have to take our own precautions here because we don’t have the benefit of experts taking these precautions on our behalf.
I hope I didn’t seem like I disagree with the EU’s caution, or that I was minimizing the seriousness of food issues in the US. I just hadn’t heard of Apeel before and was really surprised when I looked it up because I was expecting to be horrified. I genuinely hope it is safe, both for the sake of people who don’t have a choice and also for the potential value in reducing food waste.
I’m not able to find out whether palladium can be easily rinsed off because Google is desperate to sell me boots, but the company does claim you can wash the fruit, so I hope that’s adequate. I do know that lead can be easily washed off, so maybe?
No, I like to learn from other peoples’ perspectives and am glad you replied. I do take your point that avoiding food waste is also an important consideration. From my own experience, apples are still fresh and crisp weeks later, whereas before, I would’ve been throwing away entire bags of rotten apples instead of just the skin. It’s also easy to hone in on something like food additives and overlook things like wrapping produce in plastic that you mentioned having possible harmful health effects and definite harmful environmental effects. It’s quite possible that the heavy metals can be washed off, though I’m not sure that is well-studied. I’ll keep peeling my ‘Murican Apeel-coated apples in the meantime.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen a cucumber in plastic. The whole thing looks like a synthetic type of wax, waxing apples is definitely legal in the EU (also, a unwashed apple off the tree has a natural wax coat, and they continue to produce wax in storage) but I think it’s only natural waxes. You could probably get a novel synthetic one approved but the sales aren’t going to be worth the paperwork.
Everything in the EU needs approval, it’s not a “wait and see” type of situation, and E-numbers generally have approval for certain uses, it’s not a blank cheque. It might be fine in this instance but making it a free-for-all would quickly dilute the standards. Also “quantum satis” (“whatever amount is sufficient to achieve the effect”) would lose its meaning if you take the desired effect out of the E number.
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Now you also know why he’s popular with his voters
It actually wasn’t Drumpf that said this shit this time. Some asshole named Lutnick.
Edit: apparently he’s the Secretary of Commerce
Why yes. I want my beef *checks notes* beautiful. And strong.
