yes i have used kdm and gdm in the past on systems. Im aware I could install it but I simply do not want to mess with my system more than necessary given its a minor concern. Its the same reason I use a distro that is out of box and based on lte ubuntu such that its behind it. I use it because I am up and running and going right after installation without making any changes much like windows which I replaced (actually better because of all the software it includes by default). Granted I made a few and even added compizconfig to get a bit of what I wanted which made me realize I should just add kde but again 100% don’t want to deal with any issues it might bring up. most things I have added are 100% not going to cause and issue like nettools, imagemagik, and screensavers. compizconfig was a bit of a risk and im not sure if I would have done it but I was pretty frustrated atm. Maybe if I get frustrated enough again I will pull the trigger on kde.